Topological pocket implies classical spacetime's "objective" relativistic location pointer state. [Frontiers | Don’t forget the boundary problem! How EM field topology can address the overlooked cousin to the binding problem for consciousness]([Frontiers | Don’t forget the boundary problem! How EM field topology can address the overlooked cousin to the binding problem for consciousness]([Frontiers | Don’t forget the boundary problem! How EM field topology can address the overlooked cousin to the binding problem for consciousness]([Frontiers | Don’t forget the boundary problem! How EM field topology can address the overlooked cousin to the binding problem for consciousness](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2023.1233119/full)))) Or by quantum coherence? (neuronal superpositions) Spacetime emerging from entaglement now seems to work on both global physical and local neurophenomenological level. If you can separate a brain dynamics into two fundamentally disconnected systems, how can there be one unified experience? And you still cannot really disconnect it from the environment - here we get emergence of shared culture and universe that all computes relationally, never in isolation. You cannot separate, explain our experience without taking in account our environment that its trained on, that it models, that it reflects, that it works with evolutionarily dynamically adaptively! Or can you, are artificial neural nets working in isolation, or is their information also fundamentally relational and nonseparable to its training data set? But because its not entaglement (nonseparability, relationality, binding) in our shared physical space that would generate space, or that its not implemented as a topological binding into one segment in the EM field, it doesnt create unified experience in spacetime? The unified topological information processing needs to be nonseparable system in our shared spacetime? Or it doesnt need to be? Do they have their own spacetime? Is it arbitary, are both observing quantum reference frames as long as its dynamics correspond to a cocone diagram, a markov blanket? Any statistically unified information processing? Why the quantum - because we're using mathematics of quantum theory - entagling (making nonseparable) general physical quantum systems. It also gives us bayesian coherence, correlation, conditional dependence (it giving information? it having causal influence?). If so, is this how substrate independent information processing agents will merge their experiences into unified global mind's experience? [- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v==2JW_anywYn8) Is reality qubits read by quantum reference frames with bayesian cocone diagrams with spacetime and perception as entanglement and classical information as measurable properies of pointer states that are quantum equivalents of classical states that went through decoherence's natural selection all the way down? Second explanation: Entaglement is statistical nonseparability of one system into many. [[2112.15242] A free energy principle for generic quantum systems]([[2112.15242] A free energy principle for generic quantum systems]([[2112.15242] A free energy principle for generic quantum systems]([[2112.15242] A free energy principle for generic quantum systems]([[2112.15242] A free energy principle for generic quantum systems](https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.15242))))) [- YouTube]([- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v==aeh9bSuSNrA)) In quantum darwinism we have pointer states, the quantum equivalents of the classical states of the system after decoherence has occurred through interaction with the environment that survived in darwinian natural selection, leading to loss of quantum entaglement, transforming quantum information into classical information. Spacetime and gravity are part of the classical state. [Quantum - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum)_Darwinism Let's suppose quantum reference frame (QRF) A corresponds to organism A and QRF B to organism B. Let's suppose those QRFs' cone-cocone diagrams are implemented by the brain dynamics, that are fundamentally modelled by quantum darwinism describing potential entangling of subatomic particles (or arbitrary quantum systems in general that can be classical pointer states), and approximated by various quantum field theory, neural field theory, or any other classical or quantum models used in neuroscience, neurophysiology, neurobiology, biophysics, quantum biology and overall consciousness studies. [Quantum - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum)_mind#Quantum_brain_dynamics [On Connectome and Geometric Eigenmodes of Brain Activity: The Eigenbasis of the Mind?]([On Connectome and Geometric Eigenmodes of Brain Activity: The Eigenbasis of the Mind?]([On Connectome and Geometric Eigenmodes of Brain Activity: The Eigenbasis of the Mind?]([Qualia Research Institute](https://qri.org/)blog/eigenbasis-of-the-mind))) The leading theories of consciousness think that brain corresponds to a quantum system that mostly works classicaly, they suppose that brain doesn't really do mainly pure quantum computing (on the level of particles), but instead mostly classical computing, because assuming it (particles) was entangled, it would quickly locally decohere because of too much environmental interaction (even tho globally there's one universal wavefunction where nothing ever happens [[1210.8447] Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation]([[1210.8447] Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation]([[1210.8447] Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation]([[1210.8447] Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation]([[1210.8447] Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation]([[1210.8447] Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation]([[1210.8447] Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation]([[1210.8447] Nothing happens in the Universe of the Everett Interpretation](https://arxiv.org/abs/1210.8447)))))))) and according to quantum cognition there's entaglement between mental processes and between organisms, which is formalizing contextuality while communicating [Quantum - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum)_cognition ), and this being the reason why our current built quantum computers must be in really close to absolute zero to maintain stable entaglement. [Quantum - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum)_mind But quantum computing on the level of particles might play just a small role in the function with some empirically measured entanglement. (nuclear proton spins of 'brain water' being entangled) [Experimental indications of non-classical brain functions - IOPscience]([ShieldSquare Captcha]([ShieldSquare Captcha]([ShieldSquare Captcha](https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/2399-6528/ac94be)))) Therefore, according to quantum darwinism, its a physical quantum state with subatomic particles with a lot of internal separable classical pointer states. My main question is: When communication between those two systems (organisms) through entaglement happens, which is the basis for perception, do we put in a quantum superposition a system that is separable (QRF A) with another separable system (QRF B), making the resulting system nonseparable, resulting in quantum entaglement? Do all the before separable states in the QRFs become unseparable, because the two QRFs become one quantum superposition? Will that cause the entangled system to have the properties of quantum computing (time symmetry), instead of classical computing? How do these properties manifest in concrete situations? Contextuality of our language? Is there time symmetry in our language? What are the best empirical examples? Nonseparability of symbols in language or bayesian beliefs present among cultures? When it comes to sight, what does the classical content of our visual field (holographic screen) correspond to, what system/s do we entangle with? Photons? Or emitters of those photons (sun)? Or with the system they bounce off from (chair)? All of it, because without this photon bouncing process, or without the object, or without the whole univserse, there wouldn't be us, which is fundamental contextuality of everything? But its good enough pragmatically to make classical approximations to predict quantum states that behave classicaly, where time symmetry doesn't seem to be really utilized locally, while being utilized globally everywhere? How does sound work? How do other senses work? Is the communication between the nested holographic quantum reference frames in our neuroanatomy also realized via the same kind of entaglement? Contextuality of mental processes? [OSF]([OSF]([OSF](https://psyarxiv.com/6afs3))) How do thoughts fit in? Classical information? Feelings? Ontologies? Fundamental bayesian priors? Is the sense of isness that Heidegger or Buddhism talks about the most fundamental bayesian prior? Are boundaries, disctintions or any concrete structure in experience just symmetry breakings in the thermodynamic flow in hiearchical bayesian networks? Are all qualia just different classical information corresponding to some entaglement of our organism with some other external physical system, encoding relational correlations with the environment? Can all qualia be explained in quantum FEP? Does our phenomenal spacetime (error correcting code glued by entanglement? [- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v==8-ct1IlGUOw)))) https://noetic.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Conscious-Agents-Full-Proposal.pdf ) correlate to other quantum systems' relativistic relational phenomenal spacetimes that are part of their classical pointer states that we entagle with and therefore percieve together shared spacetime? What do phenomenal states, where sense of spacetime or existence stops existing (on disorders of consciousness, deep sleep, deep meditation, psychedelics) correspond to the loss of entaglement? Is all qualia classical? If all perception is relation entaglement with other quantum systems, would that mean that our holographic screen could "measure" the existence/correlates with quantum states that don't behave classicaly? Are there "quantum qualia" corresponding to quantum information? Does that make sense mathematically? Are elementary particles the best fundamental building blocks to use in quantum darwinism, since quantum field theory models the universe as system of interacting quantized fields, where particles are just excitations of the fields? What other fundamental building blocks can we use, how to properly define them? Excitations? Waves? Strings? Loops? (from loop quantum gravity [Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_quantum_gravity)))))))))))))) ) Arbitrary for quantum reference frames "graspable" quantum or classical information in a quantum system that can behave classicaly? Undefined? And since quantum field theory standard model assumes background spacetime and we want spacetime as emergent classical information, when it comes to the emergence of classical spacetime from quantum, what all models can be used to understand this relationship? What other proposed QM+GR unifying fundamental physics theories or frameworks could be used to make spacetime emergent from a deeper principle, finding pointer states with classical spacetime in quantum mechanics? Do you have a favorite one? For example: The more entangled two quantum states are, the closer to eachother they are geometrically and total entaglement increases as time passes and where is there is energy (therefore also mass) there is less entaglement [- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v==8-ct1IlGUOw)))) , entaglement being glue of spacetime [- YouTube]([- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v==bxY1PK4wW1I)) , spacetime being quantum error correcting code [- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v==SW2rlQVfnK0))) or amplituhedron (encoding momentum of particles in twistors aka spacetimefree 4D complex plane?) [- YouTube]([- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v==GL77oOnrPzY)) or string theory? Could the mathematics of models that instead try to quantize classical spacetime be helpful here, like loop quantum gravity? [Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia]([Loop quantum gravity - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_quantum_gravity)))))))))))))) How to think about bayesian networks minimizing free energy without appealing to some update function that assumes time, because space and time is classical information embedded inside the network? Because it is encoded as entaglement error correcting glue, we just describe slice in time by the total amount of global entaglement and interaction is defined as all the possible paths in the free energy landscape, that is mathematically equivalent to quantum theory's by default universal wavefunction, one fully entangled globally spacetimeless system where spacetime just makes sense locally? Is sense of and measurment of locality relational? What's the nature of entropic arrow of time towards greater entanglement in the universe? What's the solution to the binding problem and the hard problem of consciousness? Is unified physical information processing in a quantum reference frame implemented as markov blanket with various implementations in different physics and consciousness theories an individualized observer implemented by neural synchrony? [Holonomic brain theory - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holonomic_brain_theory)#Deep_and_surface_structure_of_memory by quantum coherence (neuronal superpositions)? That would make the most sense in quantum cognition formalism as superposition of neural processes! [Quantum - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum)_cognition [Quantum - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum)_mind#David_Pearce https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7597170/ by some kind of alignment of selforganizing harmonic modes? https://twitter.com/AFornito/status/1577743997149511680 by bioelectrive glue? [Bioelectric networks: the cognitive glue enabling evolutionary scaling from physiology to mind | Animal Cognition]([Bioelectric networks: the cognitive glue enabling evolutionary scaling from physiology to mind | Animal Cognition]([Bioelectric networks: the cognitive glue enabling evolutionary scaling from physiology to mind | Animal Cognition]([Bioelectric networks: the cognitive glue enabling evolutionary scaling from physiology to mind | Animal Cognition]([Bioelectric networks: the cognitive glue enabling evolutionary scaling from physiology to mind | Animal Cognition]([Bioelectric networks: the cognitive glue enabling evolutionary scaling from physiology to mind | Animal Cognition]([Bioelectric networks: the cognitive glue enabling evolutionary scaling from physiology to mind | Animal Cognition](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10071-023-01780-3))))))) by topological segmentation in the electromagnetic field? [Qualia Research Institute](https://qri.org/)blog/digital-sentience [- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v==g0YID6XV-PQ)))))))) or possibly by a deeper structure beyond quantum field theory? [Qualia Research Institute](https://qri.org/)blog/digital-sentience [- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube]([- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v==g0YID6XV-PQ)))))))) Are there overlaps? Do the neural superpositions create topological segments? I also like the model of phenomenal spacetime being error correcting code https://noetic.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Conscious-Agents-Full-Proposal.pdf or consequence of measurements of distances and causal structures [Qualia Research Institute](https://qri.org/)blog/pseudo-time-arrow [Qualia Research Institute](https://qri.org/)blog/hyperbolic-geometry-dmt [[1012.0535] Physics as Information Processing]([[1012.0535] Physics as Information Processing]([[1012.0535] Physics as Information Processing]([[1012.0535] Physics as Information Processing](https://arxiv.org/abs/1012.0535)))) https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Disciplines_mind_map.jpg I vibe with qualia research institute's and quantum free energy principles's ontology and try to unify them - mental is physical - physics models are also consciousness models, that approximate the substrate of physics that is the substrate of consciousness and help us predict it - quantum field theory, quantum darwinism, spacetime from entaglement, quantum loop gravity, holographic principle, quantum formulation of the free energy principle, or other fundamental physics models, or other quantum or classical models used in physics and modelling consiousness - whatever you choose and synthetize, its also describing consciousness, and individual experience in a qFEP's quantum reference frame implemented as bound by neural synchrony or quantum coherence (neuronal superpositions) or QRI's topologically segmented pocket in the EM field or other solutions or some synthesis of those. From global universal wavefunction of reality made of one nonseparable unified entangled system we locally emerge into spacetime with quantum system contents with evolutionarily competing separable classical pointer states in the process of decoherence with quantum reference frames corresponding to quantum systems processing information and percieving and modelling and acting communicating via entaglement and getting closer to eachother in space via increasing entanglement overtime.