What is your favorite definition of consciousness, philosophy of consciousness, (ideally mathematical) model of consciousness, and method of measurement of consciousness? Metametametaawareness " I've been into so many machine consciousness rabbitholes in the past that I feel like giving up I think we just don't have any good methods to test any of it empirically Assuming this form of physicalism holds in the first place And there are way too many definitions of consciousness everywhere https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/1915420604397744497?t=CUiwXvZa6CmOO8rb2doY4w&s=19 [Exploring model welfare \ Anthropic](https://www.anthropic.com/research/exploring-model-welfare) Ability to predict and manipulate future states is my favorite empirical heuristic to determine the degree of truthness of a model in it's domain it tries to model. With consciousness the issue is 1000 definitions. But if we take some popular ones: You can at least you can to some degree manipulate qualia with neurotechnology, or maybe soon build qualia bridges. Or you can manipulate awakeness with anesthetics. Or try to formulate learning algorithms for predicting neural dynamics and model building, and see how the information integrates and builds global workspace with different functional brain regions in the architecture etc. Or do all sorts of games with attention and content of experience with meditation and psychedelics. Or throw all sorts of math and physics/compsci/biology etc. at the brain and phenomenology. Etc. " " Prozkoumal jsem tolik krabbitholes AI vědomí, že mám chuť to vzdát. Myslím, že prostě nemáme žádné dobré metody, jak něco z toho empiricky ověřit. Za předpokladu, že tato forma fyzikalismu vůbec platí. Plus existuje milion definicí vědomí. Schopnost předvídat a manipulovat s budoucími stavy systému je mou oblíbenou empirickou heuristikou pro určení míry pravdivosti modelu v doméně, kterou se snaží předvídat. U vědomí je nejdřív 1000 definic. Ale když si vezmeme některé ty populární definice: Lze alespoň do jisté míry manipulovat s vlastnostmi prožitku (quáliemi) pomocí neurotechnologií, nebo možná brzy postavit prožitkový mozky mezi mozky na posílání myšlenek a prožitků. Nebo můžete manipulovat s bdělost pomocí anestetik. Nebo zkusit formulovat jaký učící se algoritmy pro budování modelů prostředí mozek používá, a sledovat, jak se informace integrují a buduje se globální pracovní prostor s různými funkčními oblastmi mozku v architektuře mozku atd. Nebo různě experimentovat s pozorností a obsahem prožitku pomocí meditace a psychedelik. Nebo na mozek a fenomenologii (prožitkologii) hodit nejrůznější matematické a fyzikální/komplexní/biologické atd. modely. Atd. " " Do you think consciousness has any special computational properties? Depends on the definition and model of consciousness, but I like QRI's holistic field computation ideas IIT argues with integrated information maybe you truly need consciousness for information binding problem [[2012.05208] On the Binding Problem in Artificial Neural Networks](https://arxiv.org/abs/2012.05208) Global workspace theory argues with some form of global integration of information into some workspace Selfawareness isnt good in LLMs as emergent circuits are different than what the LLMs actually say (from last Anthropic paper on the biology of LLMs), so some recursive connections might be needed (strange loop model of conscousness?) Joscha Bach argues with conscousness being coherence inducing operator, maybe thats needed for reliability Neurosymbolic people need added symbolic components for strong generalization, like in DreamCoder program synthesis, and Chollet argues that's part of definition of consciousness Evolutionaries need evolution like evolutionary algorithms, maybe you could argue you can get consciousness only this way Physicists/computational neuroscientists need differential equations, like liquid neural networks, and some might argue consciousness only arises from this Some people need divergent novelty search without objective, like Kenneth Stanley, and you could also connect this with conscousness "